Article written by Curtis

30 Responses

  1. Michael Hyatt
    Michael Hyatt 10 October, 2011 at 5:12 pm | | Reply

    Great post and nicely scorred! Seriously, I am as mystified by this protest as anyone. It’s incredible that the media has give it the coverage it has.

  2. Mike Campagna
    Mike Campagna 11 October, 2011 at 6:12 am | | Reply

    Ann Coulter’s book “Demonic” (you did refer to the French Revolution) says all you need to know about the “Occupy” movement and its instigators. Time to call a spade a spade.

  3. Jeff Schwandt
    Jeff Schwandt 11 October, 2011 at 7:25 am | | Reply

    Good piece. I was just thinking how the Occupy Wall Street thing fit Anne Coulter’s book. Mass demonstrations, protests & mob behavior are seen as outside the mainstream of American tradition. America’s Founding Fathers feared the mob, and that was before the horrors of the French Revolution and it’s reign of terror. It wasn’t until the Civil Rights movement that this means of expression was viewed in a somewhat more positive light. These kind of things don’t lend themselves to dialog and debate based on reason and moral values. It just degenerates into emotional chants.

  4. larryevangelista
    larryevangelista 11 October, 2011 at 7:46 am | | Reply

    Very good stuff. Thanks

  5. Grace McCarter (@aliadeta)
    Grace McCarter (@aliadeta) 11 October, 2011 at 8:06 am | | Reply

    Everyone that I know of has created a villain. The bankers on Wall St. whom crashed the economy and has made life difficult for everyone whom isn’t in the upper brackets(they also hold a huge arse chunk of the money, which is depressing.

    I mean think of it. I have to work full time because, despite my parents making “too much” money for me to get financial aid, I still have to work full time to pay my way through college… Out of pocket. Which I’m not saying is necessarily bad, and it was all fine until I got laid off in March(despite being a very hard worker and doing my work accurately and efficiently).

    Needless to say, I stopped going to college because I knew I needed to save every penny I’d get(I finished the classes I was already taking, thank FSM for online classes, saved me gas money).
    I’ve had to be very very stingy, but my savings are about empty(even with working part time jobs and such), but I just landed a full time job which will be paying good, but its through a temp agency, meaning I don’t know if they will still need me after a particular contract or something.

    It’s scary, and all a lot of these people want are for them to be able to work hard and earn a living wage and health care(Hell, I’d love to be able to go to college without fear of losing my job, despite that regardless of where I work, I will always work my ass off to do a good job to minimize my chances of getting the boot).(And with my new job I need to invest in new tools cuz they have to be fancy digital ones and name brand, not just accurate tools, so Alas, I had to sell my dial calipers and micrometer so I can get Starrett, or Mitutoyo ones(the prices are terrifying and it’s money I don’t have).

    I do agree that the protest needs to be a lot more organized, but the fact that a lot of the most accurate info you can get comes from the protesters, and twitter(because they’re living it) rather than the mass media and the television is very depressing(Democracy Now has been doing a lot of stellar work through). But the fact that a lot of the protest info from the mass media has had quite a bit of inaccuracies, and so many people still support it says something huge, that we are all ready for a change. :)

    That said, I enjoy reading your blog, so keep up the great work!

  6. r3newed
    r3newed 11 October, 2011 at 8:07 am | | Reply

    “From what little I can tell by scanning various news sites and the protestors own site:” Way to do some “armchair researching” there Curtis. Perhaps if you really want to write a blog post about this, you should go down to the protest and see it for yourself. Maybe interview a few people that are there. Although your 4 points are good advice for the protesters and your stereotypes aren’t as strong as those from other websites, I still think you are missing something here. I predicted something like this would happen after the election in 2008. As soon as the special interest groups realize that Obama hasn’t and isn’t going to come through with his campaign promises for them, that group of disenfranchised voters is going to rise up and either neglect to vote in the coming election altogether or vote for somebody very opposite of Obama (i.e. experienced) Don’t be too quick to dismiss the protesters though. This gives the conservatives, the constitutionalists, the libertarians a chance for open dialogue with them and to educate them on how things should be working. Also, the lesson that I learned from a teacher in high school: “Life isn’t fair.”

  7. Anonymous
    Anonymous 11 October, 2011 at 8:43 am | | Reply

    that is extremely inaccurate, The reason it is hard to find information about it without going to talk to the individuals there is because the same greedy corporations own the media

  8. WBS
    WBS 11 October, 2011 at 8:51 am | | Reply

    Interesting article. I agree with some points such as pointing fingers at particular corporations. But honestly that’s not necessary when you have so many corps to point at.

    This protest has several groups involved and they each have various goals/demands. Not hard to find that on the interwebs. Maybe do a little more research before posting such a blog stating that there aren’t any. I just googled something and found a few websites with lists of demands.

    And with those goals they do have plans for change. You may not accept them b/c of your political views but they are there.

  9. chosenrebel
    chosenrebel 11 October, 2011 at 9:12 am | | Reply

    Great post Curtis, especially the line about going home to watch some corporately produced sit-com. But isn’t that part of the problem, the majority of the population , right and left, has very little capacity for thinking about anything in any thorough fashion because we are anesthetizing ourselves with trivialities. Neil Postman’s book title alone (Amusing Ourselves to Death) is solid wisdom for our age.

  10. Kicy
    Kicy 11 October, 2011 at 10:03 am | | Reply

    While I find your points valid, you have to take one thing into consideration…it’s only been three weeks.

    Maybe the cart was put before the horse a little by protesting before coming up with a plan, but it is what it is.

    It’s gonna take some time for leadership to emerge. When that happens they can come up with and present a specific plan of action.

    Of course, maybe it will never happen. The ADD generation that is leading this movement may not even have the attention span to see this thing past a few months.

    Still, it’s too early to paint it as a hopeless movement that lacks goals. .

    I go down there about once a week. It seems to be a very diverse group of people. Liberal, anarchists, communists, libertarians. So it is going to be difficult to unite all these different groups.

    My hope is that people will take their frustration to the polls and the stores. You don’t like either party, vote for someone else. You’re not gonna change everything with one election cycle, it takes time. You don’t like any of the candidates? Run yourself. You don’t like corporations, don’t buy their products. If you don’t like Bank of America, don’t bank there. Don’t go to events they sponsor.

  11. Chrystal
    Chrystal 11 October, 2011 at 10:57 am | | Reply

    They are organizing demands, not that I agree with all of them. There are a few really good points they are pushing…but I am afraid they are so good they’ll never pull it off.
    http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009

  12. Michael
    Michael 11 October, 2011 at 11:56 am | | Reply

    The people are learning it’s a wallstreet run government and just don’t know how to tackle the issue yet. I think this movement will continue to grow and get more focused. If you think this is bad wait until unemployment gets cut in January.
    How can the government expect us to pay our bills when they don’t pay theirs. What if we all just stopped paying our bills. I’m just following the leader. Can you imagine if the USA had a FICA score?
    I love how folks preach about being debt free but say nothing about all the money our government is borrowing. Remember it doesn’t matter how much food and gold you have stored if the ship goes down.
    Time will tell but if we learned anything from history, greed/corruption kill democratically ruled governments and it’s always followed by imperial rule. Let’s just hope when our Ceaser kicks in he’s not a bad guy.

  13. Michael
    Michael 12 October, 2011 at 7:59 pm | | Reply

    As predicted, job bill didnt pass today. Occupy wallstreet will continue to grow. They didn’t want to tax a million plus a year folks 5.6% more. On a side note Warren buffet released his 2010 tax return today showing he paid only 17.4% on 63 million dollars proving the ultra rich pay less in taxes then the middle class. He then called out Murdock and others to show their tax returns. Warren Buffet is a true American hero!

  14. ccw
    ccw 18 October, 2011 at 5:43 pm | | Reply

    i didn’t get it either but there is a common thread of frustration and anger here. i don’t believe this will go away as it is growing not just in the media but in participants. this article gives some perspective in terms of its global beginnings and future…

    http://www.salon.com/2011/10/18/mohammed_bouazizi_ows/singleton/

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    starrett micrometers 21 March, 2012 at 5:12 pm | | Reply

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